Angels of Punishment – Good or Bad?
Further to Ama’s comment on another thread:
“I don’t believe Jesus’ God had an angel of wrath. It’s just totally out of character.”
I have decided to share part of a conversation I had with a friend, to see what you guys all make of it.
First of all, this is not about the Wrath Of God (Rogziel) angel, but another angel of punishment, Kushiel, (Rigid One of God).
My friend has recently experienced a couple of very odd encounters with people he has never met before. By odd, I mean they have told him things that only he knows (not even his wife knows some of the stuff being told) or things that only he and I know about, that involve things of a spiritual matter. In all cases, the messages being delivered are negative in nature and make bold statements as to the origins of the messenger working through the stranger. (In other words, the strangers sound like they are in some sort of possessed state, but act rationally in every other respect)
It all came to a head with his latest encounter involving a total stranger (the wife of a new client of his). Basically, she kept referring to “we” when she talked; ie “we are” or “we know” or “we have” or “we will” etc. (reminded me of the Exorcist, as she relayed the messages to him … thankfully, no pea-soup – hahahaha!).
I won’t relay the majority of the encounter on here, just that she tried to seduce him but then, when he spurned her, she started goading him by attacking me (verbally that is) not psychically. Now, this woman didn’t even know my friend and certainly would NOT know my spiritual persuasion nor me. But, she gave very accurate description of me to him (things that only he and I know) to let it be known exactly whom she was referring to, to my friend. She referred to me as his ‘little friend’ (in a condescending way).
Something she said during the course of this weird experience struck a nerve with my friend. Now, I was always taught; rule number one: never rise to the bait – they love it when you do that! But unfortunately he did just that, which gave the thing inside the woman a great deal of satisfaction and so it continued. As it did so, it spouted off the various names that it has been known by. All of ancient Greek or Latin origin – strangely. The end result, and incensed by its Vermont attack on me (remember, the woman doesn’t know me nor my friend) my friend did the most stupid thing he could think of and threatened to get me to come sort her out. (Yeah! Thanks mate! LOL!) But, and this is the really curious part, rather than laugh off the idle threat, the woman (or whatever was inside her) took a step back in total horror (genuine) and said “Please! No! Don’t return me to Kushiel!”
OK so I’ve left an awful lot of what went on and what was said out of this post (too sensitive for public viewing I’m afraid), but the main point of this story is this; my friend did not know who Kushiel was – hence why he was telling me of his experience in the first place. So I enlightened him.
Judeo-Christian folklore, meaning “Rigid One of God”, who punishes individuals in Hell. In Hebrew writings, Kushiel is one of seven angels of punishment along with Hutriel, Lahatiel, Makatiel, Pluriel (also written Pusiel), Rogziel and Shoftiel. As a “presiding angel of Hell,” he is said to punish nations with a whip made of fire, although, along with the other angels of punishment, is reported in Second Book Of Enoch to dwell in the Third Heaven.
So – the question I would like to ask is this;
If the likes of Kushiel and Rogziel (Angels of Punishment) are deemed ‘evil’ or ‘dark’ why are demon’s so scared of them? Demons are only scared of Angels that work FOR and are A PART OF God, do they not??
Would love to know everyone’s thoughts.
Asked by A. J. Ryder